托德:阿比德米,我們繼續(xù)來談你的祖國尼日利亞。你提到過尼日利亞不同地區(qū)有不同的語言。
Abidemi: That's correct.
阿比德米:沒錯(cuò)。
Todd: Now, are they similar or are they completely different?
托德:這些語言是有相似之處還是完全不同?
Abidemi: I believe they're completely different. Nigeria has over 250 languages.
阿比德米:我認(rèn)為這些語言完全不同。尼日利亞有超過250種語言。
Todd: Whoa, really, 250 for the whole country?
托德:哇哦,整個(gè)國家有250種語言?
Abidemi: Yes. Yes. So that's not even counting the dialects, when you start breaking them down into dialects, I believe there are over 500, maybe even thousands of dialects, because Nigeria was a British colony, so these were distinct communities and groups of people before the British came in. So that's why, one of the reasons we have so many languages. However, we have four official languages, of course English, we need that to unite everybody. And in schools people learn English. We all have Yoruba in the southwestern part of Nigeria, which is my native language. We have Igbo in the southeastern part and Hausa in the northern part of Nigeria, yes
.阿比德米:對(duì),沒錯(cuò)。這甚至還沒有算上方言,如果按方言劃分的話,我想大概有500種以上,甚至可能有數(shù)千種方言,因?yàn)槟崛绽麃喸怯趁竦?,所以這些不同的社區(qū)和不同的人群是在英國殖民統(tǒng)治以前形成的。這就是尼日利亞有如此多語言的原因。我們有四種官方語言,英語當(dāng)然是其中一種官方語言,因?yàn)槲覀円阉腥藞F(tuán)結(jié)起來。學(xué)校里也教英語。尼日利亞西南部地區(qū)說約魯巴語,這也是我的母語。另外,尼日利亞東南部地區(qū)說伊格博語,北部地區(qū)說豪薩語。
Todd: Wow! Can you talk a little bit about each language? Now, you said your language is Yoruba?
托德:哇哦!你每種語言都會(huì)嗎?你的母語是約魯巴語?
Abidemi: Yes, that's correct, Yoruba is a tonal language like Chinese or Cantonese, unlike Cantonese, we have three tones and not four, so ba, ba, ba, I don't know if you can tell the difference between those three words but they are different, three different words. Igbo, I'm not so sure, but it's a completely different language, if somebody's speaking it I would not be able to understand.
阿比德米:對(duì),沒錯(cuò),約魯巴語同漢語和粵語一樣是聲調(diào)語言,不過同粵語不同的是,我們只有3個(gè)聲調(diào),而不是4個(gè),我們的聲調(diào)是這樣的,我不知道你能不能聽出這3個(gè)詞的區(qū)別,不過的確是有區(qū)別的。我不太了解伊格博語,那是一種完全不同的語言,如果有人說伊格博語,我基本上聽不懂。
Todd: And what region is that in?
托德:哪個(gè)地區(qū)使用這個(gè)語言?
Abidemi: It's in the southeastern part of Nigeria. And then finally Hausa, it's more ... it's closer to Arabic I believe and a lot of Hausas are Muslims, so I think there's that relationship between those two languages.
阿比德米:尼日利亞的東南部地區(qū)。我認(rèn)為豪薩語更接近阿拉伯語,許多豪薩族人是穆斯林,所以我認(rèn)為豪薩語和阿拉伯語之間存在聯(lián)系。
Todd: So they sound completely different from each other?
托德:這些語言聽起來完全不同嗎?
Abidemi: Completely different, and because we have so many languages sometimes you would have a neighboring community but people can't understand each other unless they speak in English because their languages are nothing alike, yeah.
阿比德米:完全不同,因?yàn)槲覀兊恼Z言太多了,有時(shí)雖然生活在鄰近社區(qū),但人們聽不懂對(duì)方說的話,除非他們說英語,因?yàn)樗麄兊恼Z言完全不同。
Todd: So how common is it to find somebody who speaks all three languages, the three major languages?
托德:那會(huì)說這三種主要語言的人多嗎?
Abidemi: There are some people who do. There are some people who do, especially businessmen, a lot of Yorubas and Igbos are very business oriented, but traditionally men, they will travel to different parts of Nigeria and some other countries in West Africa to do trade. So for those people it was essential to learn languages, so those people can. Nowadays most people just speak two, you speak English and your native language. So maybe it's becoming rarer and rarer to find people who speak all three languages.
阿比德米:有些人三種語言都會(huì)?;旧仙倘硕紩?huì),許多約魯巴族人和博格族人經(jīng)商,通常經(jīng)商的都是男性,他們?cè)谀崛绽麃喐鱾€(gè)地區(qū)和其他西非國家做生意。對(duì)這些人來說,學(xué)習(xí)不同的語言非常有必要,所以他們可以說三種語言?,F(xiàn)在大部分人會(huì)說兩種語言,英語和母語。也許現(xiàn)在越來越難找到會(huì)說三種語言的人了。
Todd: So are these languages all taught in the school system?
托德:那學(xué)校里會(huì)教這些語言嗎?
Abidemi: For the most part no, which I think it's very unfortunate, I think it's something we should be very proud of. But now the emphasis is on English. So a lot of parents want their children to learn English in school, the top schools are mainly English and the onus is on the families to teach their children their native languages at home or maybe if you live in a neighborhood, for example if you're Yoruba like I am, if you live in a neighborhood where there are other Igbos, of course you would have Yoruba at home and Igbo being spoken to you by your friends and you might be able to pick it up that way, but generally no. So for me, when I was growing up I went to English speaking schools so I learned English at school, I never learned my native language at school at all. But at home I tried by myself, I studied my language by myself, so that's how I learned to speak.
阿比德米:基本上不教,我認(rèn)為這非常不幸,這本來應(yīng)該是我們引以為傲的事情。但是現(xiàn)在的教學(xué)重點(diǎn)是英語。許多父母希望他們的孩子在學(xué)校學(xué)習(xí)英語,一些頂級(jí)學(xué)校也以英語教學(xué)為主,家庭則承擔(dān)起在家教孩子母語的任務(wù),如果你鄰近的社區(qū)……舉個(gè)例子,如果你和我一樣是約魯巴族,如果你住的社區(qū)有博格族人,你可以在家學(xué)習(xí)約魯巴語,和朋友們學(xué)習(xí)博格語,你也可以這樣來學(xué)習(xí),不過學(xué)校上基本上不教這些語言。我小時(shí)候上的是英語教學(xué)的學(xué)校,所以我在學(xué)校學(xué)習(xí)英語,我完全沒有在學(xué)校學(xué)過母語。不過我在家自學(xué)了母語,我就是這樣學(xué)會(huì)母語的。
Todd: So do you think you'll pass on the language to your children some day?
托德:那你將來會(huì)教你的孩子語言嗎?
Abidemi: I want to, most definitely, yes. I think from learning different languages myself, I speak French as well, I think it's really important, my native language is my language and as much as English is important in the world today, I think my native language, Yoruba, is part of my identity. And for my children too, I think it's important for them to learn, so yes, I would like them to speak it.
阿比德米:我當(dāng)然會(huì)。我也會(huì)說法語,我學(xué)習(xí)了不同的語言,我的母語是我的本土語言,和世界語言英語同樣重要,我認(rèn)為我的母語約魯巴語是我身份的一部分。對(duì)我的孩子來說也是如此,我認(rèn)為讓他們學(xué)習(xí)母語非常重要,所以我會(huì)教他們。
Todd: Oh, I agree, one's native language is always the most important.
托德:好,我同意你的觀點(diǎn),一個(gè)人的母語是最重要的。
Abidemi: Exactly. Exactly.
阿比德米:沒錯(cuò),沒錯(cuò)。
Todd: That's cool though, so you've got three distinct different languages, more.
托德:這真酷,你們有3種不同的語言,實(shí)際上你們有更多語言。
Abidemi: More. More.
阿比德米:對(duì),更多。
Todd: More, but three major distinct languages.
托德:更多,不過這3種是主要的語言。
Abidemi: Yes, these are the three major ethnicities — ethnic groups in Nigeria, yes.
阿比德米:對(duì),尼日利亞有三大主要的民族。
Todd: Well thanks.
托德:謝謝你。
Abidemi: Thank you.
阿比德米:謝謝。